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Hello and welcome to this week's episode of midlife AF. I have just come off a call with the wonderful J. Moon field and she's talking and we're talking about embodied embodiment. So really the mind body connection and why, you know, often we can think things in the thinking part of our brain, but our body physically won't let us do them. Because we store so much of our trauma or experience our conditioning in our unconscious and also in our body. I've trained under J. I did her courses I found her absolutely amazing she I did one to one work with her. She's really transformative for me, and I highly recommend her work to anybody who is interested in trying to find a way to be with themselves when they're distressed, which I think is a lot of the reason why we drink right? Because we feel like we're in pain and we don't like the feeling of something and so we want to drink to get away from it. Her work is huge for everybody, and I highly recommend it so over to Jamie. You're a woman in midlife whose intuition is telling you that giving booze the elbow might be the next right move. Then midlife AF is the podcast for you. Join counselor psychotherapist this naked mind and gray area drinking alcohol coach Emma Gilmore for a weekly natter about parenting quirky teens, menopause relationships and navigating this thing called midlife alcohol free. If you're feeling that life could be so much more that you're sick and tired of doing all the things for everyone else. If your intuition is waving her arms manically at you saying it could all be so much easier. We didn't have to keep drinking, come with me. Together we'll find our groove without booze.
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I lovingly acknowledge the boomerang people of the Kulin nation as a custodians of current Baroque. I share my admiration for the Aboriginal culture, I witnessed the connection that they have for each other and the land and their community. As I swim in the waters and walk on the land, I feel the power of this place. I'm grateful for the Aboriginal peoples amazing custodianship, the power, beauty and the healing potential of this place. I wish to pay special respects to the elders of the Buena, wrong people. Their wisdom, guidance and support are exceptional, and felt well beyond the Aboriginal community. I honor that this is Aboriginal land, and that it has never been ceded. I am committed to listening to the Aboriginal community, and learning how I can be an active ally in their journey to justice. This is the lovely Jay, I'm so happy to have J fields here with me today she is might one of my teachers and has been a very big influence on my work and my life. And so I'm so honored that she's joined me on my in my spaces. You. Yeah. Well, thank you so much, Jay. And I'll hand over to Jay to introduce yourself because I always think people introduce themselves much better than we can introduce them.
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Well, thank you, thank you for having me. And I will give the introduction that I have for me and you can fill in little pieces that you think might be helpful to know or, you know, follow up questions, that sort of thing. But I'm Jay fields and I live in California, and I am a somatic Coach and an author. And for those of you who don't know somatic though I'm sure if you're working with Mo you do. So Matt Soma comes from the Greek word for body. So somatic coaches approach people holistically. And I help people leverage them their intelligence from the neck down to their their embodied self awareness, their nervous system, their physiology, in order to essentially get to choose how they show up and like who they are in the relationships and the situations that matter. Most of them.
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Yeah, it's such a powerful work. I had absolutely no idea about below ahead. I know I
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was trying to think back to well, it's been a number of years since we've worked together. And what a different place you were in in your life, then with your work and all of that, and I don't even remember what made you reach out in the first place.
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I think I had been, I just finished doing a training course with Jolene. And she had said that she had worked with you. And she was like, if you want to go to anybody, for somatic work, Jay is your person. And I was like, Okay, I'll do that. Because I knew it was an area that I really needed to understand. Not just but first for myself. Humans that I work with as well.
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Yeah, right. Right. And you were like, what, what? What body? What do you mean body? Let's, let's think through this.
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I think as I go along, in my work, I find the more and more of the people that I work with, are Well, I think first of all, just being female assigned at bass, like kind of makes you a bit disconnected from yourself, because you suppress yourself all the time, right, just to fit into the world. And then, you know, many, many of the humans that I work with, will have experienced, like all of us, you know, some kind of trauma in life, they've been gone a little tea, or will be a self identified as neurodivergent. And I think since I spoke to you, I don't know, Jay, if I had if I knew that I was ADHD, and I've also been, I've been diagnosed as autistic as well. Oh, no, I didn't know. Yeah, you've got ADHD. Yeah, so I had a day I had the diagnosis of autistic and ADHD, and a lot of the humans that I work with are either diagnosed or undiagnosed neurodivergent humans as well. And we struggle with interoceptive awareness, like as a, as a, as a group. Yeah. And Alex steamier, as well. So the two things are, you know, related to being able to either identify how you're feeling as a sensation. Or even that you do feel sure, right, and the connections between the brain and the body aren't always necessarily working in the way that can make it you know, so for example, you could spend a lot of time if you're hyper focused on something, and I'm sure this you know, again, something that can be applicable to a lot of people. And you might not notice that you've been sitting on your leg for heart for a half the day and it's gone completely numb and doesn't work, or you might not realize that you need the toilet, or you might not realize that you're hungry. Or, and again, those things can be transferable really, for most humans to especially those born as female assigned at birth. Because we know with diet, culture, and everything else, we suppress ourselves so much. Yeah. And that's what I think from again, other people, people working with me in the with alcohol, you know, even if you're not, don't say that you have trauma, or you don't feel or identify with a neurodivergent. Label, often you'll hear people saying are very, very sensitive, highly sensitive, intuitive, which is,
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I'm a highly sensitive person that that wasn't something I identified, as are knew about when I started this work 20 years ago, but in it has become clear to me like, oh, that that is how I navigate. This is a huge part of why I do the work that I do, which is I was trying to navigate. How do I be in the world with the immense feelings I have, and the hypersensitivity I have to other people and situations I'm in. That's
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it. And so for me, it's really interesting for me, because my children are hyper sensitive. And I have spent my whole life thinking I'm hypo sensitive, so like the opposite. And then what's kind of interesting is that is the more that I investigate it, the more I realized that perhaps that's a coping mechanism as well.
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Sure. Well, I mean, ask the alcohol piece as well, right? Alcohol is the synthetic version of radiations. Right? Yeah, yeah. It numbs your feelings so you can pretend like you don't have them. Exactly.
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Exactly. And I think for years, I was like this. As I was saying, I'm like, recently on my podcast, I was talking about my dad passing away 11 years ago and how I really hadn't experienced him passing away and how in order to getting him him passing away and actually grieve him. I have to specifically give Time to it. Yes. Because naturally my body will quite happily just do other stuff and not not do that. Right.
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Right. And that in that comes up with the people I work with in, in my, with my clients where there's, there's something that they, they think they've felt because they've thought about it a lot. You know, and maybe they've gone through the practicalities of it. Like, for example, if a parent passes, they've done all the, they've squared away all the things and they, you know, figured out all the paperwork, but they haven't actually felt it. But since they've been kind of like being dragged, dragging along the feeling with them everywhere. They feel like they felt it. And so yeah, a lot of what I do with people is, is kind of like allow, allow their themselves to catch up with the things that have been kind of there all along, and give them the embody tools to know that you can, you can let those things catch up with you. And they won't take you. That's it. That's
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it. And there's so many things, Jay, and I'll I'll go hand over to you and stop talking so much. But I was just so excited to have John, because I haven't been to do for ages either. So it's like, Jay. It's really nice to see everyone as we just catch up. Yeah. What's happened over the last year or so. But yes, it's one of the reasons for me that Jay helped me so much, was that understanding and learning how to have an expert experience and not be necessarily swept away by and how to sort of differentiate between me and me having an experience and how to, you know, find ways to stay tethered? When I was having an experience, and these things are things that I teach in my work around alcohol, as our grounding as a basic, you know, and most of the things that I've learned, and I only touched like a tiny element of it, I've learned from Jay. And that's why I wanted Jay to come and talk with you guys. Because I think, you know, I hear so many people in like, even just last night, we were working in group, and one of my clients was saying, you know, I, you know, I keep I keep drinking and getting so frustrated with herself. And, you know, I'm what it's what was happening is what she keeps, she keeps feeling something, that feeling is uncomfortable discomfort, because we've been taught to get rid of the bad feelings, right? And so it's like, well, then how do I? How do I feel the thing? Without it being? Because none of us have been taught how to do it. Right? Yeah.
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Right, well, and just being beginning to understand, to be able to identify that you are feeling something because I think that's I see that in the people who come to me where they can't even necessarily name the feeling they're having They just know they don't want is, if you remember one place to start, you know, one place to start feeling your feelings. And let me say it a different way to meet with yourself and the experience you're having one place to start is to say I don't want to feel this. Yes. Because if you're over here drinking or busy, busy working or trying to distract yourself in any way, and over here is the feeling you're having. Yeah, one way to match your experience and come back to yourself is to simply to say, I don't want to feel this. Like I recognized through this behavior. Whether it's drinking or is Netflix binge watching or whatever it is. I'm trying not to feel something and yet and just to name I don't want to feel this tethers yourself. Yes, and you don't even like the seat. It's like the secret ninja move because you don't really have to feel a feeling that's underneath of it. You just have to feel your resistance, because so much of his exist in resistance. And just to say I'm resisting this is half the work. Yeah.
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That's so wise. I love that. That makes so much sense to me, as well, because it's that resistance very similar to the alcohol thing, isn't it? In fact, the two are very so aligned. Is that you know, we know that once we stop resisting it will get so much easier but it's the resistance. Almost Is that is that is my daughter. It's me this morning. She's like mum, the thing that's so hard about going to school isn't anything else other than the trying. It's part.
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Wow huh Yeah, how hard we try and how much we exhaust ourselves. Yeah, you know, and I should mention for the people who are listening, I don't have a history or background of being having issues with alcohol or having or being identifying as alcohol free, though there have been many, many years in my life where that has been the case naturally. But what I found through my own, as I've seen earlier, journey to figure out my own hypersensitivity and, and just as you say, what it's like to be a person in the world who has been conditioned to not feel my feelings and, and to be there, to take care of other people, all of that, I've developed this body of work that just so happens to, to, to, like, marry so well, with people who are saying no more to alcohol. I think you know, this, but over half my clients are sober. Yeah. Right. And it's because they've, they've done that momentous work, and they've made that deep and loving commitment to themselves. And now the next step is okay, what are the I need skills? Yeah, I use skills for how I relate to myself and skills for how I relate to other people. And these skills for my motions, like all these things that the alcohol was there for in the past. The body of work that I created just happens to be like, Oh, here we go. These are matching matching pieces.
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And I, every piece of work that I've done of jays, and I'm not just like, you know, blowing trumpets on Jay, although she does look quite angelic she had the sun has profoundly changed the way I approach life. And so that's one of the reasons I was like, when Jay is like, Oh, you think I could come on the podcast? I'm like, yes, please come on the podcast. What
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would you mind me saying? I'm now? Like, when we first popped on, before we recording you said, there are the work that we did today together still shows up in your daily life? In what ways? What does that look like?
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It's funny, isn't it? Because it's, it's difficult for me to kind of pick it out individually, because I've amalgamated a lot of it. But I always remember, there's things like I remember you talking about. And one of the things at the beginning of my sessions with clients, I we always ground, we always ground and we talk about just noticing like the sensations of our fingers touching and the carpet or the floor or things like that. And I always remember you talking about and I used to think it was, I feel like you said it's like when you're when you're feeling an emotion and your son, it's like you're a DJ, and you've got a DJ, you know, like when you're spinning decks. And you've got like, one of us going I'm going to feel the feeling a little bit now. And then I'm going to come back to my you know, just like to me to who I am to where I am to my socks on my feet and my humaneness. And there was I always I still use this will make Australians laugh, right. So Jay taught me a saying, which was don't go to the hardware store for milk. Is that right? Yeah, I go. I go don't go to Bunnings which is an Australian. Like, I don't know, DIY store, like Do It Yourself store. Okay, yeah. For that might be something random like bacon. Love it. I just got to be honest for bacon, because it's when we keep going to the wrong paths. Like we keep going to somebody expecting to get something that they're unable to give us. Yeah. And then we get disappointed and upset with them because they just can't give it to us. It's not possible. Yeah. Yeah, so many things. And just I think the biggest thing that you taught me was in your yours truly cause which I was just the most, that was kind of like, because I've worked with J once one. I've worked with J doing little mini courses that Jay has done. And then I did j is yours truly, which I'll get her to talk about in a minute. Which was such a fantastic course and I was gonna say something then it's gone completely out my brain that I learned from yours truly. And it was actually about mastering it was and one of the things I say to people when they're stopping. Drinking is before anything else. Before anything else can change. You have to start to matter to yourself, like until you can start to choose you if you're continuously putting everybody else's needs before yourself You're never going to be in a state of nervous system regulation whereby you can make a good decision. And so the first point is I'm going to choose me, I'm going to make some space for myself, I'm going to allow myself to have a break that it doesn't involve me drinking in order to, you know, push through and feel like I'm getting space, even though I'm not getting space at all. So it was it was that piece about mastering that you actually it's like, I remember you saying to me when you and again, I won't give away all the parts of your course. But there was one piece where Jay says something along the lines of, you get to a point where you have to start choosing you. And it's almost like you have to you have to be prepared to lose things. You might make a dress, and this is why a lot of women, Cedric and I always say it's fine to stay drinking, stay drinking as long as you need to stay drinking, because actually leaving drinking for some people can be a very unsafe place. Yeah, what might need to happen is you might need to make changes in your life, in order with your life without alcohol, and you might be using alcohol in order to keep you safe, either from your internal environment, or your external environment. And that's a very real situation for women.
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very real. And I appreciate you saying that. Because when you were saying one of the things that stuck with you was I choose me. I don't know if you remember. But one of the things when we when we get to that place in the course, one of the things that comes up is people panic when they imagine I say imagine saying I choose me and people were like, oh, nice idea. No, thank you. Yes. And I think for my experience of the 20 some years of background, I have that wove together to create yours truly, why I see it work for people, is that it brings together learning about social conditioning, like how did you get to this place? Where, where it freaks you out to say, I choose me? Why is this? Like? What's the conditioning that led to that? And then also gives tools for what do you do with your nervous system in your emotions, when they freak out, because you're trying to do something that you've been conditioned to believe is right, good, safe, can keep you belonging all. And that peace is I think, you know, the thing that makes it so powerful is just as tell someone you need to start choosing yourself is like trying to tell someone who's having a panic attack, just relax. Like they're like, shut up? No. So yours truly brings together, you know, the psychological education around what's the conditioning you got? Because there's some there's some patterns out there that have created the things that you and I and the clients we work with do. How do you how do you work from the inside out to create the container of safety, and, and kindness that you need to make those changes? And then the third piece is, what are the new skills that you need? Because, you know, when we come from a place where we don't matter, and move into a place where we do where we really believe we matter. And we're making choices based upon that the language we speak is different. It's not, you can't speak the same language because this language over here is the language of people pleasing, and, you know, manipulation and whatnot, like an mean hearted way, but like, how can I make this versus speaking straight from your experience? You know, it sounds different.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I just went off from all
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right, and it's, I remember you saying that that piece that you were just saying about that manipulation? I remember you saying something about that to me, and just being Wow. I can't remember what it was exactly. But I remember it's like all communications like, and it dawns on you, how conditioned we all are, and how we are all trying to get things to be a certain way for very good reasons. Because that's what we think we need in order to be safe, you know, and so manipulating how people feel about us and how people perceive us and what we show up like is it's very fascinating for me, from the coming From the neuro divergent perspective now, you know, coming from this idea that we are wearing a mask a lot of the time, especially women. And that whole idea that, you know, we kind of put this mask on as we go through life, and we get more and more like pieces to our mask. And then, in reality, what we're trying to do is get people to see us in a certain way that's acceptable. So we can be okay.
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And I was I was just writing about this earlier, there's something that you said made me think about this thing I was writing, which is that those of us who wear the mask are those of us who people pleaser, those of us who caretake. The secret of hope that we all carry, is that the people who we do that for will all return the favor. That eventually, those people will say, Oh, I see how much you've put out there. For me, I see how much you, you know, put, put your own needs and your own feelings aside, in order to help me let me now care for you let me know, don't even you won't even need to set a boundary with me because I will respect your boundary. You know, like the secret hope is, it's the like, look how good I am. If you're, there's no way people are not going to be able to see how good I am. And eventually they're going to they're going to turn the check the table and care for me. Yeah, but it's okay. But we're training everyone around us to not to not even as we're holding that secret hope that they will. And I speak from experience. From like, that's, that's that's the going to the hardware store for milk. It's the like, if I keep treating you this way, even though you're treating me like crap. Yeah. Then eventually, one day, you'll see how good I am. And everything will magically change. Yeah,
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yeah. It's almost like I can stop. I can, I can stop trying to convince your
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Yeah, and, and behave as if, like, be the advocate for yourself. You know, as opposed to, I think of it as being the romantic and the romantic is the person who has the fantasy of what they want a situation or relationship to feel like, and they come from that place in their head of like, what if I could just, if I could just get you to XYZ, then we can have this fantasy? Yeah, the thing that keeps them trapped in that going to the hardware store for milk to create the pharmacy. Is that underneath of all the they really don't wholeheartedly believe that they get to have what they want. Yeah. Yeah. Because they genuinely believed that they could get what they want. They would just go to the grocery store and get milk. Yeah. Yeah. Over. Yeah. So that's a lot about what we work on in yours truly is like, where's that let's rebuild the infrastructure of your your physiology that was built around the conditioning that you don't get to matter and that it's not okay to want what you want? Yes. And instead, come from the inside out in like, and it does, it feels like a rebuilding cellularly of I get to embody my worth, I get to embody that, the way what is meaningful to me gets to be meaningful to me, and it might be meaningful to you and not as okay. Yeah, why not? You?
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Yeah. It's that enmeshment isn't it? I was just thinking about it. Like we, as human beings weren't brought up to have to be boundaries. A lot of us we were, like, brought up in houses that homes were, you know, there were no boundaries. And we were expected to, you know, sort of, like, cat, you know, allow everybody around us to, you know, yeah, I don't know, it's difficult to, it's difficult for me to explain, but I know, Jay really changed this for me, I really got to see that.
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I remember one of the things that was really big for you when we were working together was the two realities thing. Yeah. That there is not one reality and that's what I hear and what you're saying. So many of us are brought up believing there's one reality there's the family systems reality, you know, or there's my school the my community's reality and I don't fit in that, then it's my job to fit to it. So, you know, the family reality, for example, might be like, well in our house, we eat ham on our pizza. Whatever, like so random, but you start thinking, Well gosh, if I don't like ham on my piece, I guess I have to eat ham on My pizza's so that I get to be part of this family because this is what we do in this family. And you and you conform to the one reality that says this is how you belong. But there is never one, just one reality. There's a reality for each person in that family system. And this is the skill that we haven't learned. Because because we're, we're, we're like, conditioned to believe there's only one reality we never learn how to express our reality in a way. That's kind. Yeah. Right. Because then it's like, well, the only way I'm going to get my reality is if I fight for it. Yeah. And I revolt and I, you know, so that's, that's also I know, that language might sound unfamiliar to people and talking that way. But yeah, this, your you get to matter starts by recognizing that you have an entire experience within your being. There is no one else's, but yours. That's right. Yeah.
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I just find that when you're talking, it's just reminding me of those revelations over revelations that I was having when I was working with you. And how, you know, even now, I have to pull myself back a little bit and remind myself because we live in such a binary world, don't we? Everyone's like, it's this way, or it's this way. And it's like, half the time. It's, it's that and right. It's like there's there's so many different ways we can see everything. And it kind of causes so much pain and segregation, this idea of the binary, you know, yeah. And then the binary,
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the the perfect expression of that is the detached head. Right? Yeah. But when you were talking earlier about how you start with your clients by grounding and saying, like, Can you feel the carpet underneath your feet? And can you feel this other sensation that's, that is beginning to build the embodied skill of this proves is also true. Yeah. So why couldn't it be? Not just that it's true that I can feel the carpet and it's true that I can feel my anxiety, but it can also be true that I feel happy about this, and you feel concerned? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're doing two things at once. And I can hold that. Yes, we can all that.
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I think that's so true. What Joe's saying there as well, because for me, I was definitely brought up in that there's a winner or a loser. Yeah, there's one
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way, you're either right or wrong, or good or bad. Yeah.
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And that's just not even true at all. Is it?
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Nonsense, no, but it's not true. And that's part of why the work has to be embodied. Yes. It doesn't matter. You know, it's not
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your executive talk. Can you talk a bit more about that, Jay?
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Yeah, I mean, I think this is, what I'll say is, most of the people who come to work with me have done therapy, or self help, or like, every, you know, they've read all the books, they've worked with all the people, and they know better. It's not like, yeah, it's not like people come to me, and they're like, I have to choose myself. Wow, I've never heard that. You know, I mean, like, but, but without being able to pull in the intelligence of the body, and being able to actively choose how to engage with your physiology or your nervous system, you will not be able to apply the things that you know, because you're, essentially your body will hijack you out of it. In the situations that feel threatening because it feels threatening to, to set a boundary when no one's used to you doing that. Exactly. And terror. Yeah. So it doesn't matter if you know better. Yeah. You just don't do it unless you have something to manage the experience of.
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And that's the same with drinking, isn't it? It's like, people were like, I'm so crossing myself. I know, I don't want to drink. I know, it's bad for me. I know. And it's like, it's not about knowing it's not about that it's not about here at all. It's your body's going I need to save you from this feeling right now. Right?
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So it's like bringing all those pieces together and being like, okay, we can pull it all at once. And that's how change really happens. That's it.
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Well, Jay, I am an artist. It's so lovely for me to be in your space and have your you know, your yourself even in a completely different continent. Talking to Myself, there's lovely and I would really recommend for anyone who you know, works with me follows me He enjoys my work. If you want to explore some of this other, this stuff that's really vital, I think, to being able to live unencumbered or as unencumbered as possible. With, you know, reactivity and not being able to cope with, which is what we know, my my big thing, and if you have a big experience of something, and it's like, I just don't know what to do with. Yeah, and that's what so many of us are, and why so many people drink like this. I just, I hate this feeling. And I just need to get away from it right now.
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And then it just erodes your self trust. And then it just, it becomes just
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so bad, we're so mean to ourselves about it. But I recommend Jays work so highly, I can't I probably can't even think of another person that I would recommend as highly because it's changed my life. So much has changed my personal life. Personally, like the way I react with my children, the way I read with my husband, the way I read with my, the humans around me, I know still being a long way from
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but her, her courses are fabulous. And so I once again, thank you, Joe, for coming. And secondly would ask you just share where people find you what your costs are, who would benefit from them. And anything else that you want to share? It's your space. Yeah, the
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the easiest way to find me is that my website, which is Jay Moon fields.com. For me, I, you were saying I got married since we were together in his last name is Moon. And I stuck it in there, I took it as my middle name. So it makes me sound like a total hippie. But it really is my name, Jay fields.com. And the course is called yours truly. And there's a there's a page there as you come onto my site that it's easy to find. And you can read all about you can actually see what are the five modules? And how do they break down? And what is it about. And for any of your, your people. There's a 15% off code that we can put in the notes here. I'm sure it's it's why t dash Emma, why tears in yours truly dash Emma. And if you use that when you purchase your shirt, of course you get 15% off. And I hope I really hope that people feel resonant, who feel resonant with what we're talking about. Give it a shot, or at least reach out to me and ask more questions. Because I want I believe in in the course. And I've seen it help so many people and I just would love more people to have the skills because that's the world I want to live in.
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I think that's so true. It's right is it it lets us It allows us to be more real humans more aware humans more, you know, kind of humans more compassionate humans like a really great. I can't you know, as I said, I can't recommend Jays work more. I think it would help every single person. I don't know a single person that
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I appreciate you saying that because I have the worst time marketing it because when someone's like, yeah, here's a thinker, I'm like, oh, you should take the course or like, it's like, yeah, I'm just constantly like, oh, yeah, it's for that. And people are like, well, what is it for? Because last week it was for? You know, it's like no, it's for it's for humans. Like you need the problem. It really will help because it's all the problems we have are based on conditioning and
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100%. So yeah, I as I said, I will put Jays code in there in the comments and also in the podcast because we're going to deliver this as a podcast in a few weeks time as well. With a transcript and everything so is please find us there too. But thank you, Jay. Oh my gosh, thank
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you. You're such a wonderful human and it's really nice to to virtually sit in your office with you again. It's like an old old room that's familiar.
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We'd love familiar nervous system loves
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thanks thanks for tuning in to this week's episode of midlife AF with Emma Gilmore. If you enjoyed it, please share on Instagram for your friends and tag me at hote rising coaching. If you want to help me grow the podcast please review the episodes for me on Apple podcast. Bye That really helps. If you would like to work further with me please go to my website www Haute rising coaching.com for my free and paid programs or email me at Emma at Hope rising coaching.com sending a massive cuddle to you and yours for me and mine and remember to keep choosing you
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