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Hello and welcome to this week's episode of midlife AF. This week I'm going to talk to you about the affirmation that really really helped me when I first started taking successful breaks from alcohol that felt really good. The affirmation was you are where you put your attention over to me. If you're a woman in midlife, his intuition is telling you that giving booze the elbow might be the next right move. Their midlife AF is the podcast for you. Join counselor psychotherapist this naked mind and gray area drinking alcohol coach Emma Gilmore for a weekly natter about parenting quirky teens, menopause relationships and navigating this thing called midlife alcohol free. If you're feeling that life could be so much more than you're sick and tired of doing all the things for everyone else. If your intuition is waving her arms manically at you saying it could all be so much easier if we didn't have to keep drinking. Come with me. Together we'll find our groove without booze.
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I lovingly acknowledge the Buena Ron people of the Kulin nation as the custodians of current Baroque. I share my admiration for the Aboriginal culture I witnessed the connection that they have for each other and the land and their community. As I swim in the waters and walk on the land, I feel the power of this place. I'm grateful for the Aboriginal peoples amazing custodianship, the power, beauty and the healing potential of this place. I wish to pay special respects to the elders of the Buena, wrong people. Their wisdom, guidance and support are exceptional, and felt well beyond the Aboriginal community. I honor that this is Aboriginal land, and that it has never been ceded. I am committed to listening to the Aboriginal community, and learning how I can be an active ally in their journey to justice. And today, we're going to be talking about one of the phrases that I found so super helpful when I was taking my first break from drinking now let me just put something in the chat in Facebook because I know if I don't, I won't be able to see any comment tree. So let me just put a little Hello. Hey, Lou. Ah, perfect. So Oh, my goodness, I hope you're all really really well. I am on day two of the alcohol reset, which has just been so cool. We've ended up with 20 amazing human beings joining us. And of course my be the lighthouse membership group who get access to all of my, my events and programs. So we've got a group of like 33 people, which is so awesome. And just it's lovely to meet some new faces and see some old ones and just really get into the nuts and bolts and it's just so fascinating to me that we you know, we were so alike aren't we all know we're so we think we're so different and we're so alike. In some of the themes that came through last night were around using alcohol to push through using alcohol when we're tired. Our Colin loneliness, our column fun our colons socializing. What else are we talking about? We were talking about the concept of relaxation. And the idea that alcohol relaxes us and we went through, you know, dark biochemistry available and I'm realizing that, you know, it doesn't actually relax us that it actually floods our bodies with adrenaline and cortisol, which is stress hormones and and you know, this is really lovely to see some great turnarounds from people some really good are Ha's and we sort of we went through that process and we did a lovely grounding together, which is something I always do at the beginning of each of my sessions, so that we can start to sort of, I think one of the biggest things is, you know, being able to be with our discomfort. And the thing that we find hardest as human beings. Hey, Julie, our car to be comfortable enough for sex, isn't it? That is such a huge one as well. It's a really good one to put out there. Dude, I really appreciate you doing that too. Because I know that's a huge one for people. And again, it's this whole idea of overriding our safety, isn't it our our nervous systems, natural fear, you know our nervous systems natural uncomfortableness with with some of the things that that are, that are in our world and, and being able to loosen up enough to be open to receive. Yeah, because receiving is so hard for us, especially those of us female assigned at birth. Humans, it's receiving his heart. You know, many of us have had trauma, many of us have had difficult, unsafe experiences as well, sexually. So, you know, absolutely. And, you know, many of us are shy, many of us are self conscious about ourselves, our bodies are shapes. That was interesting, actually, I went on a retreat with the amazing Katie Underwood, I love her retreats, I go to them as often as I can. And I'd last two times I've been I've taken Daisy, my daughter, which has been really lovely for her because she's been suffering from chronic fatigue. And it's like a really lovely, safe environment. And if she wants to stay in bed, she can. And if she wants to get up and deal with the adults doing, you know, fun things, meditations and chanting and just dancing, we do some beautiful dancing and just, you know, hanging out chatting, eating, you know, it's a really safe environment for her. So she knows it really well. But it was really interesting for me, because I had a massage. And I had a massage with a guy. Yeah, and I hadn't, I hadn't, hadn't had a massage with I don't think I've ever had massage with God actually before. And also, I am a little bit self conscious about my body at the moment. You know, because I'm, I've been on a journey with my body for a long time. And it's complex and very interesting, and quite similar to the journey that I have with alcohol. There's so many connections, that's why I've been training to be an intuitive eating coach, because there's so many connections between, you know, a lot of time we emotionally, you know, we eat emotionally. We've got shame about it, there's all this kind of stuff, you know, this is so, you know, aligned, that sort of diet culture piece with restriction. You know, there's, there's so many alignments when I was studying for I was like, wow, this is so a suppression of self, you know, all of those things, right. And so it was, I had to get myself. So one of the ladies I think said to me beforehand, she said, Oh, by the way, it's a naked massage, as in not, we're both naked, but you will be naked. And you only get like a little bit of towel to just sort of cover your bits and bobs. And I was really pleased that she'd given me that information beforehand. Because the guy who is doing it, I felt very safe with this really lovely guy. But if I hadn't known beforehand, I would have probably been a little bit uneasy. And it was interesting to see my reactions to being and it wasn't necessarily because the guy was a guy, but it was a little bit. But it was sight that my reaction to being that vulnerable with somebody that naked with my body, because my body size has grown over the last few years. Yeah, and it was it was interesting thoughts that came up. And I had to do a lot of the work that I do now around, you know, how do I make myself How do I enable myself to feel safe. And I think it's an interesting one. Because there's so much vulnerability isn't there and we're having sex, we are incredibly vulnerable. We're naked, you know, we're hidden, we're naked, we're at our most vulnerable. And being vulnerable is so hard for us. You know, even opening up in groups, even, you know, talking and sharing our experiences is so hard for us. Because there's the potential that we'll be rejected, and hurt. So of course, we feel very insecure and potentially unsafe, and what alcohol allows us to do, it allows us to disconnect from ourselves a little bit. And it's really interesting, because one of the things I always say when we're working with alcohol is sometimes it's safer to stay drinking, and that sounds very counterintuitive from an alcohol coach. But I always say it's actually not stopping drinking. That's hard. It's working on all the reasons that you are drinking, that can be challenging. And so it's really a matter of choosing your heart. Do you want to stay inebriating yourself in order to socialize in order to suppress your experiences of things to be able to connect with people without feeling exposed. I mean, there's so many reasons why you might want to stay drinking. And I think it has to, to a certain extent, when you're when you're stopping drinking, when you're taking a break from drinking, you need to, it needs to be it needs to feel like the pain of staying the same is greater than the pain of change. And for many of us, the reason why we stay stuck in drinking in that cycle is around fitting in and belonging and wanting to feel like we belong, and wanting to feel like we're loved. I mean, at the end of the day is the human condition, isn't it that we want, we all want to be loved, right? We want to be we want to be seen as good and we want to be loved. Yeah, we want to be that's basically it. And to me, the journey of human being is
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is returning to sources like returning to our authentic selves, discovering who that person is that we've put away over the years for me, you know what I was, from a very young age I you slowly started wearing the mask putting on the armor of the performance of Emma as she was, you know, acceptable in this world. And I think most of us do, right? I don't really know anybody who doesn't. And for me, the the brilliance and the in the incredible nurse of taking a break from reducing or stopping drinking, has been at that return to source that rediscovery of self, falling in love with self, being able to immerse yourself it sounds funny, me. But being able to hold myself in my distress, nurture, and mother myself, I think one of the things that I learned that to the greatest extent when I was training and a couple, a couple Marty last year, was that, you know, as human beings, we have an innate ability to self nurture. It is in our absolute DNA, we are all able to do it. And this is one of the most incredible healing pieces and one of the best approach I always say to people, you know, when you are taking a break from stopping, reducing your drinking, the thing that you need to learn is how to, and when I say the word mother, it doesn't mean your mother. I mean mother, as in look after nurture care for your human being yourself, as much as you care for everybody else. And that means that accepting yourself as you are learning to stop judging and criticizing yourself. But not by pushing that away. Bye, bye by by by drawing it in an understanding where that self criticism that that critic is voice is coming from, it's coming from a place of protection is trying to keep you safe from being rejected by the world by society as if I keep being really mean to her or him. Then Then he'll put his socks up, or she'll put her socks up, because that's what we've been taught is the way that we make change happen. It's not correct. The opposite is true. As we all know, we, you know, none of us thrive in an environment of, you know, if someone's being mean and horrible to us all the time. But that's what we do to ourselves, right? We're really mean and horrible to ourselves. And so this journey is a journey of self love, and a journey of vulnerability. And, you know, it's one of those ones that people say, it's interesting, I was reading a post actually, I think it was on Instagram, I think it was about the magic is in the middle. She's great. She She posted some amazing stuff if you don't follow her do and she said something like, the biggest mistake I ever made was thinking that the drunk me was, you know, the Funmi was that was the great was the good me like actually, the the real me. That's, that's the that's the that's, that's where the joy, that's where our human potential is. That's where our ability to be different to be profoundly extraordinary in our uniqueness lies, our our need to fit in our need to be accepted, is the thing that keeps us stuck. And the reason that we are we need to be accepted. I mean, it's a very human thing, but also it's like, you know, for some of us is security, its safety. It's all of that stuff that actually it's not it's like the it's like everything with alcohol. The opposite is always true, because we're not safe. Because what we've done is we've created an unsafe place inside ourselves. And that unsafe place inside ourselves feel scarier to be in than poisoning ourselves with alcohol. And that's the choice that we make. And that's what this journey is all about. It's about creating a place inside ourselves that feels safer than that, then disassociating from ourselves or having that foggy brain, and I shared with the group in our, in our first group coaching call, and it was something that my friend Katie, who runs the retreats, and if any of you don't know Katie Underwood, she was a she used to be a pop star thing. And in a band called Bardot. I wasn't here in Australia at the time. So I wasn't very familiar with that. But she's just the most incredible singer. And she has, you know, she she creates music for all different kinds, but she's a sound healer and the way she heals is with her voice. And she uses drums and bought bowls and all that stuff as well. But if you're in Melbourne, and you get the opportunity to go to one of her events, or one of her evenings, she's just it's just amazing. She's such a great healer. She's a Reiki Master. So she has everything right. She's amazing. Why am I talking about this? Good question, Emma. Out? Yes. Because she said, during that, she said, when we're learning to meditate. And when we're talking about meditating here, right? There's so many different types of meditation, we will think meditating things sitting cross legged on the floor, and being still and quiet and not having any thoughts. And it's not that at all right? You can meditate for three minutes, two minutes, one minute, you can meditate for a very short answer. You can do a walking meditation, you can sing and meditate. There's just so many different ways to meditate, right. And it's, again, it's another sort of misconception that we have to be thoughtless, we don't have to be thoughtless, the whole purpose of it is that noticing our thoughts, but noticing them as an observer, as opposed to being like, transported by them. And that this is so important and connected to being to the relationship with alcohol. Because half the time when we're choosing to drink, we're doing it unconsciously, we're doing it unconsciously, because our brain and our nervous systems all cut up in our thoughts, usually in our fear, or anxiety, our lack of ability to be with our experience of the world, because we think it's too overwhelming. And we've been taught that it's not okay, you know, society has taught us as children, you know, growing up my generation, and the generation before me, was, it was, you know, we needed to be convenient to parents, not inconvenient, our emotions were inconvenient, and I'm not talking of blame. It is not about blaming parents, it never is, it's about the society that we grew up in. Certainly, if you've come from sort of any of the Western culture, it was very much like children should be seen and not heard, you know, children needed to just, you know, comply, basically. And to certain extent that still still there today. And so what all of us have found is that when we had a bigger motion, when we were overwhelmed when we were having a big emotional experience, it was shut down, we were told off or, you know, we were told to sort of like, suck it up, back to Cup, you know, get on with it, and so on, so forth. So it's really interesting. But what she was saying, and I found this so profound, and it really helped me what she was saying, what happens is we've got two states in our brains at the moment. So we've, we perceive that we are alert, and we're wired. And because we come from a productivity culture, and it's all about doing doing doing and not who we are. And you know, our validation comes from, who are what we do, as opposed to who you know who we really are. That was what our brain thinks is there's two states, we're either wired and alert, or we're relaxed and foggy headed, right? And so it associates being relaxed with being foggy headed, which is what being inebriated is like, right? When I when I talked with my group, if some of them had a data point, we talked about what did it feel like? What were we looking for when we had a drink? We wanted to feel foggy headed. We wanted to feel disconnected. We wanted to get away from ourselves the feeling that we were experiencing inside our body. We wanted to escape eject numb, right? So this journey is all about learning how to be with our experience learning how to hold ourselves in our distress. And that's the work right that we do. And is also about things like taking up space having difficult conversations. And this is the reason why I do say to people you know, sometimes you're not ready. You know, sometimes our fear of losing that which is, you know, our social life, which might be, you know, in reflection, when you stop drinking, when you take a break from drinking, when you reduce your drinking, you reflect back and you say things like, you know, you can see that if you had to drink in order for something to be fun, that it's not actually fun. And that was, you know, similar to what that lady was saying about, you know, I thought, you know, the saddest thing is that I thought that the, you know, the inebriated version of me was, was more fun and more and better than my true authentic self. And I so remember, when I started this journey myself, you know, being with the discomfort of being awkward, you know, because we don't do we, we, we throw it, we like, Oh, I'm gonna drink so I can distance myself from my awkwardness. But I don't feel so separate from everybody. Because we're all inebriated, right?
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I don't know if that Julio went off on a massive tangent then. But basically, what I'm saying is yes, we absolutely use alcohol to disconnect from self, so we can relax our natural concern and safety. And I think the vulnerability of building a relationship with another human being where you can have sex and you can be intimate with each other. Without using alcohol is a an against is right. Take choose your heart. What is your heart going to be? Is your heart going to be the difficulty of having the difficult conversations, of learning new ways of being intimate of asking for what you need? Is that where you're going to put your return? Is that the pain that you're willing to take? Or would you prefer that the pain of, you know, repression of self, waking up and feeling shame about yourself at three o'clock in the morning, and none of these things are right or wrong, there's no right or wrong about any of this, all of this is completely fine. Everything that we choose is completely fine. Because as human beings, we are lovely, beautiful, fragile, amazing people. And, you know, whatever we choose is fine. But if you are wanting to change your relationship with alcohol, if you are ready to have the difficult conversations, the growth on the other side of it is incredible. Because what happens when we keep drinking our way through these things, is we keep staying stuck. We don't move forward, when we have a difficult conversation. Yes, there might be Fallout, when we put a boundary in with people. Yes, there might be Fallout, it doesn't serve everybody. And you know, yes, you might lose friends. But it makes space for all the other friends that you're going to make. That are your real friends that care about things other than just drinking. And you think that all your friends that are your drinking friends, your real friends, but often when you when you when you step away from it, you realize that the only thing that you had in common was the fact that you were drinking. And it's so interesting, like, you know, when people are about to approach like at the moment, I've got the 30 day alcohol experiment, starting on the third of June, which if anyone's interested in joining, I would so love you to be there. We have you get daily live learning content, because my methodology is all about, learn new things feel different D and then you can start doing differently. And so we a part of every day is learning new information about ourselves, about our core, about society, and playing with our beliefs around our core. Kind of really unpicking whether they're true or not. Because for me, that was such a huge part of my journey was like starting to realize that everything that I taught myself, everything I believed about the way I saw the world was actually not right. And this is to me part of living and growing, isn't it. But every time I've had those difficult conversations with my husband, for example, our relationship has got stronger. Because we might have a big fight. And the way our brains always go is oh, I'm going to lose connection with my partner, I don't want to do this, I'm going to lose connection with my partner. Well, you know, to be honest with you, if the if the relationship is such that by you not drinking, you're going to lose connection. So unless you self harm through alcohol, you're going to lose the relationship with your partner, then maybe it's not a relationship to keep. I mean, that's the question but the other part is, it doesn't usually mean that what it usually means is things need to change in your relationship. conversations need to be hard. Boundaries need to be put in. You need to determine what because say for example, my husband still drinks and you know, that's totally fine. I don't have our Hi Sharon me Lovely to see you. Hey, glad you're here. My husband still drinks, I don't drink. We have to have conversations around that, like, what's the boundaries? What do we know what's okay for us what's not okay for us. And equally, you know, I do from for me, when I was drinking, I found I was putting up with a lot of things, I was suppressing a lot of things, I was not having the difficult conversations, I was doing what I was brought up to do, which was shove everything under the carpet, you know, that's what we were taught to do growing up would have us, you know, woke up the next morning, pretend everything's okay, nothing happened. And when you when you take the coping mechanism that allows you to sort of push down and pretend and sort of perform your way through life, when you take that away. It's difficult not to have those conversations, and sometimes they can be really hard. And sometimes heartbreak can happen. But you know, it's real. And I guess that's the thing is authenticity over attachment. And we talk about this all the time as iscobol Martinez teaching as well as like, you know, we choose attachment over authenticity all the time, as children, because it keeps us safe. But we're not children anymore. We're grownups and our actual are, to me, our obligation to ourselves, is to find out who we really are, and bring that incredible nurse into the world. You know, be it shy, be awkward, be it you know, whatever it might be, know, be itself conscious, you know, just beautiful human beings that were born and put on this earth to be we weren't born and put on this earth to be the same. We weren't born and put on this earth to all perform the same to have the same things, you know, we will put we will put on this f to be unique and special and connected and, and joyful. And you know. So just to take us back to our I'm so looking forward to seeing I hope you're going to be there on Sunday, show me really avoid catching up with you guys and having a big cuddle and a nice cup of tea. Sure, me and I are part of a mastermind group. And we've got a lovely little bunch of Melbourne people we meet up once a month and just share it's really nice when you've got an online business it'd be be quite lonely and a bit isolating a bit like it can feel like when you first start out, and you're taking a break or reducing our great taking a break and reducing your drinking, it can feel a bit lonely and a bit scary. That's one of the reasons why community is so wonderful. And why I highly encourage you to join a program. If it's not mine join someone else's. There's so many amazing coaches out there. But as I said, I'm running the Oracle experiment, the thing that's really cool about mine, the reason why it's a bit more expensive than some others is because I run it literally every day we have a coaching call every day you don't have to be there, there's no obligation, it's all recorded. But you come on in the evening at seven o'clock every evening. And not only do you get the content and you get the journaling prompts, you get the Facebook community, but we meet every evening and you can drop in dropout, you can come in your gym jams, you can have camera on camera off. And we work on grounding, learning how to be with difficult feelings, learning how to identify our feelings, learning in bits about interoceptive, awareness, all sorts of things that really helped with that. And then we take every single day we take a belief about alcohol, and we unpick it and we unpick it because the brain can only holds one belief it cannot hold two competing beliefs. And so we change like beliefs like alcohol relaxes me alcohol makes me fun. Alcohol helps me sleep with every single one alcohol helps me be better in bed, every single every single one that we have, we pick apart. And we so that by the end of the 30 days, you have a completely new lens through which you see the world which means wherever you're going and drinking because for me my programs apart from be the lighthouse, which is for people who want to be it's a membership program for people who want to be alcohol free, longer term, but none of my programs or stop drinking programs. They are all about taking a break from to experiment. And see if you can change your relationship with alcohol by doing all of the things so that when you leave, you're doing you're feeling that you have so much more choice and we work. So for example, if you want to moderate we do work on that towards the end of the 30 days. And you're setting you up with your non negotiables and having all of that so that we've got a plan for you. Every single person who leaves with a plan. If you want to extend you can carry on extend if you want to just go back to drinking and just take its break. That's totally fine. It is not a stop drinking program. It's so important that I emphasize that. It really isn't. It's an experiment and it's for wherever you And the goal isn't even to be abstinent, the goal is actually awareness, awareness and learning. So if you, you know, if you have a slip up, you know, if you if you have a drink and you didn't want to Yes, absolutely, we're going to go in with the intention of being 30 days alcohol free. But if you have a slip up, that's totally fine. All a slip up is, is it's just something you haven't learned how to do yet. So it's like a growth mindset thing. So I just wanted to share that with you, because that's coming up. And I will put the links in the Facebook group and on in my link tree on Instagram, or you can just send me a message just right experiment to me, and I will send you the links. I've got payment plan. So if you don't highness, mardi so if you don't want to pay full price, you can pay in four installments. And the other thing you know, just to talk a little bit about all the reasons that people don't join programs. Hello, Nick, Jonesy, nice to see you.
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The reason people don't join programs is always like things like it's not the right time. Never going to be the right time. I've got this do coming up. And I don't you know, I want to be able to drink for it. Well, you know what the most amazing thing is being able to go to these things. And we talk about this in the outro experiment. We talk about socializing, drinking. But the most beautiful thing is like people like oh, how can you go to a wedding and not drink? How can you go to a business thing and not drink? But the thing is, how can I go on vacation or not drink but the thing is, those things that are actually better for not drinking. And so it's almost like it's the optimum time because you're going to be supported. And there's nothing more wonderful than going to a wedding and being 100% Present. There's nothing more amazing than going to work to and shining your special funky light, and not having to wake up in the morning and worry about what you said to the boss, you know, and going on a vacation where you don't feel like shit at the end of it and feel like you need to go on another vacation to recover from your vacation. Right? So there's, there's never, there's never an exactly right time. But I promise you, if you are having any doubts about your relationship with alcohol, I cannot recommend my program more. There's loads of testimonials on my website. It is a wonderful, wonderful program. It's it's how I stopped drinking, it's how I maintain my relationship with alcohol, which is literally one where it has absolutely no control over me. I have no interest in it whatsoever. It's literally all my friends drink, I can be around our cold doesn't bother me. You know, I had i Someone gave me a mask, an oyster. And they gave me the option of gin or lemon juice. And I was like, I'll try both. Because it doesn't bother me. It's not like oh, I can't have this in my it's not this this fearful sort of space around alcohol. It's just like, I've learned stuff about alcohol. Now it doesn't serve me it's not something I want to put in my body. And I'm good. You know, if you want to do that, great, that's fine. But still, let's learn stuff. Let's unpick this whole bullshit that we've been taught around these two types of people, people who can drink and people who can't drink that, that keeps people so sort of full of shame and self loathing for the fact that, you know, they feel like they can't trust themselves with with alcohol because they make probably make promises to ourselves, and then we break them. And once you start working on my problems, you understand that that's just literally biology and chemistry. But it's nothing to do with you. Nothing you're not you're not affected in any way. You know, all human beings. Were just beautiful. Yeah, beautiful, good souls. So just to take us back and quickly round back up to where I started, which is you are where you put your attention. So when I started off on this journey, I think I had been, I've been I was going on and off alcohol was taking, you know, there's 30 day breaks here and there. But I've really decided it wasn't working for me. And I'd done a program as Lisa called off who I love, and I still work with Lisa now. I mean her storyteller program, which is absolutely amazing as well. But I remember she's I'm pretty sure she said this to me. But it's one of those sayings that you know, to Tony Robbins has got something similar, there's loads going around similar sort of things. But basically what it's saying is you are where you put your attention. So for example, if you want to take a break from change your relationship with alcohol, you need to put some attention on it. You can't go I you know, I just can't do it, and then not put the intent. You know, you haven't put the attention on it. If you put your attention on it. It's amazing what happens and it's and similarly, I'm a big I'm not a fan of the whole play it forward. strategy I do did use a bit in the early days myself, but I genuinely think fear of tomorrow is not a great motivator. So the play it forward. I don't want to have a hangover tomorrow. You're going for things that I don't want to they're kind of like The opposite of an abundance mindset, there's sort of a fear based mindset. And what you where you put your attention when you say, I don't want to have a hangover tomorrow, what your brain hears is hangover, just, like moves towards it kind of thing. Whereas, if you move your attention, I found this so useful. It's like Dee Dee, you take the friction of restriction, friction or restriction away, and you place your attention somewhere else. And I remember this being huge for me as well, you know, even with smoking as well, like, because you get that craving, don't you and the more you resist it, the stronger it becomes. And so it's almost like you don't resist it, is it? You don't, it's not that you go into it, but you, you lean into the feeling that was happening, why are you wanting the thing? You understand it, recognize it, allow, investigate it, and then nurture it, let it be okay. But also, I mean, one of the best things I was like, Okay, I'm not gonna think about that right now. I'm just gonna put my mind somewhere else, I'm gonna do something else. And within a few seconds, it will be gone. But it's what is the resistance that causes us the problem, and I teach all about that in the greater Seattle experiments. So if any of you are interested, please come and join us. We start on Monday, for 30 days, so I look forward to seeing some of you in there. And it's been beautiful being with you today. Thank you for being here. If anyone's got any questions, just reach out to me and again, if you are interested in the drilling the alcohol experiment, just send me a message just send me a message to say experiment or have a look in my link tree or go onto my website horizon coaching.com and I'll send you the links to join. All right, my darlings, take care. It's been lovely to be with you. Thanks for tuning in to this week's episode of midlife AF with Emma Gilmore. If you enjoyed it, please share on Instagram for your friends and tag me at hote rising coaching. If you want to help me grow the podcast please review the episodes for me on Apple podcast that really helps. If you would like to work further with me please go to my website www Haute rising coaching.com for my free and paid programs or email me at Emma at Hope rising coaching.com sending a massive cuddle to you and yours for me and mine and remember to keep choosing you
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